I had another big conversation this week with Dean Walker for his The Poetry of Predicament Podcast. We talked about the great pause that has suddenly descended upon us all on this planet. What does it mean to have all the things we thought supported us close? What are the possibilities this time holds for us individually and collectively. We also discuss how my upcoming Expansion in a Time of Collapse online program is a well timed exploration of what is happening both on the planet, and at a personal level.